I remember Carl as quite a “fighter”. Shortly after his major heart attack, i ran into him at the gym on Camelback. He was walking on the treadmill right next to me. Very impressive that he wasn’t going to let something like a heart attack slow him down.
Ran into him several times at the office on 24th Street….on weekends. I was a lowly Project Engineer, and he was a VP. Always was very friendly and helpful to me, regardless of your position with the company. RIP Carl.