Bud Ware
Harold Glenn "Bud" Ware
  • 86 years old
  • Date of birth: May 3, 1926
  • Place of birth:
    Wilmar, California, United States
  • Date of passing: Jul 30, 2012
  • Place of passing:
    Valencia, California, United States
Bud, thank you for making the world a better place.

Please add pictures and/or stories of you and Bud.

Brief comments on the "Leave a Tribute" below.

Longer comments in "Stories" folder above.     

Memorial Tributes
This tribute was added by dick narveson on 30th July 2016

"455 1238.   Expect that you will answer...ok?...Tennis at 10...same bunch of bums....I'll surprise,you and open a new can...not like the micro waved ones we used last week..new joke too...apple juice and beer after...as usual......I still have two forehands which I know drove you crazy..miss you man...see you n the court..animal."

This tribute was added by dick narveson on 3rd May 2016

"5/3/16 ...anotherbWarehouse memory..Bud and I shared a love for jazz...I had a huge jazz 78,LP,DVD etc collection.When he came up,,,always had Ellington,TommybDorsey,Benny G playing...also had a cat named Sparkey....who I thought liked .me...but that cat would walk right over me to get to Bud...no respect..Really miss him!!!!"

This tribute was added by Monica Narveson on 3rd May 2016

"Happy Birthday Bud... We're still missing you, Joannie and Topanga.
Warm memories, Monica and Dick Narveson"

This tribute was added by Carol Hansen Butterfield on 3rd May 2016

"Remembering  Bud Ware on his 90th birthday and (appropriately) National Teacher Appreciation Day. Unlike most here, I had Mr Ware as a math teacher and he made a huge difference at a vulnerable time for me. A great teacher, a great coach, and a gem among human beings."

This tribute was added by Howard Sands on 30th July 2013

"A class act and someone to look up to for the example he set."

This tribute was added by Tracy Bantel on 12th November 2012

"My Parents Richard & Monica Narveson moved into Topanga Canyon close to where Bud lived more or less up the hill. My dad was determined to find out whose tennis court was seen through his binoculars and ever since Bud & my father were inseperable tennis friends. My dad always incourged me to play and I had several leasons w/ Bud, he was always some inpatient to patient. I still play today."

This tribute was added by Suzanne Gattenio on 6th November 2012

"I had the privilege of growing up in Topanga and being life long friends of the Ware family. I was saddened to hear of Mr. Ware's passing (we grew up calling each other's parents Mr. and Mrs.), but I know he missed his beautiful bride. RIP and I am sure Mrs. Ware was waiting with open arms! <3"

This tribute was added by Joanna Gunst on 24th October 2012

"I have many memories of Bud (Mr Ware to me). As a child he was always a kind and soft spoken man. I loved it when he and Joan had me come over on a weekly basis to teach them swing in their dining room. It was fun and they were quite good at it.
I miss him and send love to the whole family from mine."

This tribute was added by m david green on 24th September 2012

"Being a neighbor of Bud's, playing on his tennis court with him and others, and getting to know and care for him, and the marvelous tributes given, I have the fantasy of making a "Bud Ware Memorial Tennis (& maybe basketball) Club".  So if anybody knows anything about the court status and/or is interested in being a part of it please contact me @ damelar2@aol.com."

This tribute was added by Eric James on 24th September 2012

"Coach Ware was the one coach at Pali that I remember fondly. He was a real gentleman. And judging from the tributes left here, his was a life well lived."

This tribute was added by Carol Hansen Butterfield on 15th September 2012

"I am so very sorry to hear of Mr. Ware's passing. He was a great math teacher and a wonderful human being. I hope his family feels the love and affection pouring through these pages.  The world is a better place for his being here and I'm so glad I got to know him.  xo, Carol, class of 1977"

This tribute was added by tina valentine adams on 3rd September 2012

"Mr Ware was one of those teachers that impacted a student's live for the better, forever. He was elegant and rugged, funny and refined. He was an encourager and a challenger and even though I hated 10th grade geometry... i loved being in his class each day. You left your mark on so many lives..God bless you Mr Ware."

This tribute was added by russell kyle on 23rd August 2012

"Mr. Ware was one of the few coaches who knew what high school sports was about.  His teams dominated the reknowned western league.  His players were like ucla players in their knowledge of the game.  He was a true educator in tradition of john dewey,  He could
judge talent and knew what moves to make during the game..As one of elder coaches @pali he was probably in the"

This tribute was added by Mike Stowe on 21st August 2012

"Thank you Bud, for sharing your wonderful Topanga with us, for the lessons on cooking and tennis, for the laughs, the stories, and for being genuine, feisty and sweet.  What a gift you were to us!  We are saddened to see you go."

This tribute was added by Valerie Belt on 21st August 2012

"My memory of Coach Ware was when he took over the Pali High girl's tennis team from a PE teacher who didn't care if we won or lost. Even though he was the boy's tennis team coach, he could see our potential, and that's how we won the city that year! I was never fortunate enough to have him as a teacher, but he certainly was a great coach - one that I have never forgotten! He was the best!"

This tribute was added by Cathee Folk on 18th August 2012

"Bud Ware was my all time favorite from Pali! His kindness, support, and encouragement did not go unnoticed. I have never forgotten the smile, wink and twinkle in his eye from 40 years ago.  He had a special gift that will be missed by all who knew him.  He was simply the best.  XOXO"

This tribute was added by Michael Allport on 17th August 2012

"I was the "B" Baketball Captain of the 1964-65 team. Mr. Ware was a tough commander, but a just one as well. He always greeted me with a "Big Mike!" wherever I was-in school, on the outside courts and around town. Thank you Bud for the unswerving integrity of your character!!!!! I shall keep that with me for the rest of my life! With much love and respect-Michael J. Allport-Brasil"

This tribute was added by Rich Paegel on 17th August 2012

"I played basketball for Coach Ware '65-66. He taught with Intensity and coached with passion. After 40 years, I ran into him a few years ago at a Pali Hi picnic on the plaza and we talked about his teams in the 60's like it was last year. He was an extraordinary person. Beyond basketball, he taught many the true meaning of the importance of being a good person. All the best to The Wares."

This tribute was added by Chris Kinnell on 17th August 2012

"Coach Bud was full of energy and was the perfect coach for our outdoor basketball practices with the B and C teams.  He was always in our corner getting the very best from us without lots of complicated talk.
Each time we entered the phys ed office Bud greeted us personally by name and we felt welcomed and important."

This tribute was added by Todd Freter on 17th August 2012

"Coach Ware's motto in one version of the Palisades High School year book was something like "Be good, kind, and fair to your fellow schoolmates." He lived that advice. Good, kind, and fair describe Coach Ware perfectly. I was lucky to be in his PE class."

This tribute was added by Julie Dietz on 17th August 2012

"Mr. Ware coached the girls tennis team in 1975 and we won the city championship for the first time.  It was such a great time!  Mr. Ware was so good and patient with all of us!"

This tribute was added by David Newman on 16th August 2012

"I remember so well Coach Ware teaching me, in 10th grade, how to shoot a basketball. He was one of the best teachers I ever had in any facet of my life. He always was honest...sometimes brutally so. I think I remember playing C basketball in 10th grade and making Varsity in 11th grade because Coach told me how to do it. He was a truly great teacher. Bravo Bud!!!!"

This tribute was added by ignacio fernandez on 16th August 2012

"Coach Bud Ware,
Off all the coaches at Pali during the 60s when I attended there, coach Bud Ware stands out in my mind because he care who the students were and always was lobbying them to do their best. I had just arrived from Cuba and coach Ware made it a point to make me fell welcomed and loved. I played baseball, he recruited me for tennis."

This tribute was added by Karen Adkison on 16th August 2012

"From Karen Rice (now Adkison), Pali Class of '75 - Nicest man ever!  I used to get to the tennis courts early for my tennis classes and stayed late so I could get some tips and the endless kindness from Coach Ware.  Coach, you'll stand out in my memories forever.  Thank you for everything.  God bless your darling family."

This tribute was added by Herb Kirchner on 16th August 2012

"(continued) Bud always made me feel like I was one of his favorites (which I probably was) and my only regret, was that I did not get a chance to tell him, how much of a positive influence, he had on me and how I should treat people. I will miss him, and am saddened that I could not have told him my feelings , in person. God Bless Bud and his Family.Bud you were the BEST.  Herb"

This tribute was added by Herb Kirchner on 16th August 2012

"Bud Ware....Now there was a man. I met him at Paul Revere Jr High and he followed me thru Palisades High. I was somewhat small, shy boy who was good in sports (after school sports at Revere, Track and Field,Football at Pali) but you would always see me in the Gym at Pali, playing Basketball.....Monday thru Saturday. Bud taught me the formula for doing MAGIC SQUARES which has stuck with me."

This tribute was added by Leonard Matsumoto on 16th August 2012

"I remember when one of my buddies in my class was late and did not do his homework.  Instead of being upset he sent him out to other classes to receive books and other things for about 15 minutes.  He came back sweaty and tired and little did he know while he was not looking he put in 2 bricks in his back pack to way him down.  Never was he late again.  Only Bud!!  Miss you Bud!! RIP"

This tribute was added by Mark Emerson on 16th August 2012

"I couldn't do a chin-up all through junior high (Revere).  Coaches yelling at you as you hang helpless on the bar doesnt' work.  Coach Ware didn't do that.... he gave me kind, clear instructions that set me on a straighforward path to build the needed strength in my arms, and in a few weeks I could do a chin-up.  Then I could do 10. Best PE teacher I ever had!!"

This tribute was added by Reggie Jones on 16th August 2012

"Bud was a great teacher and motivator and was always committed to your success.  It was inspiring to unexpectedly see him on the sideline several years later at a college game I played in San Diego - went on to have one of my best games ever.  I will miss him a lot."

This tribute was added by Bill Barnett on 16th August 2012

"I played tennis for coach Ware for three years and I can tell you he made me a better player and more importantly a better person. Four of us met up and Bud's house about a year ago and had a great doubles match...so glad to be able to share that one last moment with him doing what we all loved most."

This tribute was added by John Barsky on 16th August 2012



I was a student at Pali from 66-69, Bud  was the best."

This tribute was added by Jane Mueller on 16th August 2012

"The first day Pali opened, Mr. Ware was there as a founding faculty member. I was a member of the class of 1964, the first class to spend all three high school years at Pali. Eight years ago, when we had our 40-year reunion, he rode his bike to join some of us beforehand for a picnic. Didn't like dinner parties, he said, but a picnic reunion was OK."

This tribute was added by Alan Newman on 16th August 2012

"I was at Pali in the 1960's.  At that time, boys who were bad at athletics were assigned to what was called "spazz gym" by the other boys.  It was in Mr. Wares's "spazz gym" class that I felt something other than ridicule or indifference from a gym teacher.  Mr. Ware treated each of us with respect,, and build our woefully lacking self esteem.  I will always be grateful to him for that."

This tribute was added by Dan Warren on 15th August 2012

"Thank you, Mr. Ware, for being a memorable teacher. Struggling to find suitable role-models at that time in my life, you and Coach Rosvall provided solid foundations. Ironically, your contribution was toward intellectual discipline, 'cuz, man, did I hate geometry. Like has been said, "You're a Prince of a Man... humble, unforgettable". God Bless You, Mr. Ware. I will never forget you."

This tribute was added by Joyce Boucher on 15th August 2012

"Bud was special! He always had a smile on his face!  We lived near him in Topanga for years and I would see him riding his bike up the hill. Even when he could no long ride up the hill he would ride down. He was so kind to others. When another neighbor was sick and living away from home he took it upon himself to water her plants. He was my role model for aging. He will be missed!"

This tribute was added by Catherine Kane on 15th August 2012

"My old friend Russ Crawford just told me the news of Mr. Ware's passing. He remains in my memory so clearly: the elegant, kind, smart and gracious man that taught me geometry at Palihi when we all first got there.  Such a good person and a teacher whose sense of fair play and quiet humor I still remember very well all these years later - humble and unforgettable! Thank you Mr. Ware RIP"

This tribute was added by Dan Gluck on 14th August 2012

"Mr. Ware was one of those special people, one of those rare educators who provides great inspiration and makes a tremendous positive "difference" in the lives of those fortunate enough to have come into his realm.  Back then, at 1970 Pali High, we were searching for identity, in the midst of the agony of "coming of age".  Bud, with his respect, caring and relaxed love of life, gave us hope"

This tribute was added by Dan Sheridan on 12th August 2012

"Bud was a prince of a man and a motivating force to so many kids. He taught by example and always had a kind word & quick wit. R.I.P. Condolences to Claudia and family."

This tribute was added by rocky bowman on 12th August 2012

"I met Bud as an 11 yr old at John Wooden Basketball Camp in June of '68 and last had dinner with him 6 months ago.  There was always a twinkle in his eye as he really enjoyed life, teaching & interacting.  Geometry with him in 10th grade was the best as he would segue off into observations of life almost daily that were always so informative and FUN!  A true Prince of a Man!!  Love and RIP"

This tribute was added by John Rosenfeld on 12th August 2012

"Tennis weight training in 1974 was great.  I ran into Bud a few years ago in a market parking lot as he was about to climb onto his motorcycle.  I went up and said hello and told him I had been in his class in high school.  He didn't remember me but looked at me and smiled, and asked, "Did we have fun?"  He was pleased when I told him we did.  RIP."

This tribute was added by Marc Doshay on 9th August 2012

"Back at Pali, Mr. Ware was often the first smiling face I would see when we parked the station wagon behind the Print Shop near the tennis courts, and sometimes the last I'd see heading toward Topanga in his Porsche when he'd occasionally pick me up hitching home with my skate after track practice. His kind words and warm spirit will stay with me forever. Peace."

This tribute was added by Andrew Dubbins on 9th August 2012

"One of my early childhood memories is driving up to see Bud.  Winding up through the Canyon, and finding Bud on the court with a cold 7-up and bucket of balls.  He was the epitome of cool--Clint Eastwood dead-ringer, built his own court, told John Wooden stories, played jazz. He taught me the inner game first and my second serve second.  He set a great example and I'll miss him."

This tribute was added by m david green on 3rd August 2012

"Although I only knew Bud for past 6 years the tributes confirm my respect and caring for him as one of the -too few people-in the world that make it better.  His gentleness, caring and generosity combined with a positive active lifestyle are an inspiration."

This tribute was added by doug king on 3rd August 2012

"Bud was a great teacher, and a true friend. He inspired many of us to exceed our expectations and become the best we could be. All of us  who spent time with him are indeed fortunate. Goodbye and Thanks!"

This tribute was added by Bill Seckler on 2nd August 2012

"I was a teammate of Jim Pardee that first year Bud Ware coached at  Palisades; I already knew Coach  from a Social Studies class I had taken from him at Revere Jr. High.
   I remember him bringing his VW microbus down to Palisades on the nights of local college games, so that any player could catch a ride to the game"

This tribute was added by Jim Pardee on 2nd August 2012

and being a contributing member of the larger team.  These were all lessons that I brought forward into my life - I will be forever grateful to Coach Ware for teaching me these core values and principles.
I send my heartfelt prayers to all the Ware family at the passing of Coach Ware.
Jim Parde"

This tribute was added by Jim Pardee on 2nd August 2012

"What a wonderful coach and gracious man Mr. Ware was all of his life.  I felt very blessed to have had him as my coach for both basketball and tennis.  He taught me a lot about the techniques and strategies of each sport along with the importance of being physically and mentally prepared for every match and game.  He also instilled in his players a great sense of fairness (continued above)"

This tribute was added by The Ware Family on 2nd August 2012

"Bud was a gentleman...a gentleman with great strength..instantly likeable...easy to love...Bob and Mary Chavern"

This tribute was added by Rick Olson on 1st August 2012

"Bud was my coach for basketball as well as tennis '72-'74.  He always made it fun and gave 150% of his time to help everyone out.  He taught me a great second serve. Bud told me that all of his star players had paid big bucks to learn the technique, so why not pass it along.  Bud also said that tennis was a game I could play for the rest of my life.  I agree.  Thanks for your spirit."

This tribute was added by Amanda Broadwell on 1st August 2012

"My Great Uncle Bud was the tallest man I thought I'd ever met as a little girl!  Thank you and the family for all your love, kindness, and memorable adventures at the Topanga house..I'll never forget the time I fell off the rope swing and tumbled all the way down the hill, unscathed no less...haha!   With a heavy heart, happy Bud & Joanie are once again hand in hand!  All my love, Amanda"

This tribute was added by Robin Soles on 1st August 2012

"In my heart I know that you and Joan are dancing together under your own blanket of stars..."

This tribute was added by Robin Soles on 1st August 2012

""You-you alone will have the stars as no one else has them...In one of the stars I  shall be living. In one of them I shall be laughing. And so it will be as if all the stars were laughing, when you look at the sky at night...You-only you-will have stars that can laugh."
-Antoine de Saint-Exupery, The Little Prince. Shine On.."

This tribute was added by Peggie Davis on 1st August 2012

"Dear, dear Bud Ware...Not just a stellar, handsome coach in the mid-60's at Palihi?  -But a guy who knew how to say a kind word to a not-so-athletic girl that made ALL THE DIFFERENCE (spinal curvature reqrd. spec.ed)  Bud was a true gentleman, one I will NEVER forget.  Thanks for the inspiration & memories Bud...Peggie (Bissell) Davis,SanRamon,CA."

This tribute was added by Gary Peattie on 1st August 2012

"In 1973 I was in his Geometry class and on his basketball team at Pali and I will never forget how much he believed in me. Forever grateful."

This tribute was added by Wendy Borders on 1st August 2012

"Bud and Joan were a  very important part of my childhood and and I miss them deeply.  I remember one summer going to play with Linda- it was hot, Bud was working on the house, and he built a rectangular frame of 2 x 6's on the ground, lined it with heavy plastic and filled it with the hose. A little swimming pool for 2 little girls! And he talked to us, sharing our time that day."

This tribute was added by chris schoop on 1st August 2012

"I played for Bud during his last year as tennis coach but I knew him most of my life. Bud was a great coach but, more importantly, a good man. The world was better with Bud in it. We will miss you greatly."

This tribute was added by Diane Walsh on 31st July 2012

"There are very few teachers/coaches I remember from High School, Coach Ware is definitely one of them.  My favorite memory was when he asked me why I missed PE class...when I confessed I was at the beach playing volleyball he said "well that's ok, at least you were being active."  Too awesome.  RIP Coach!"

This tribute was added by Rick Donaldson on 31st July 2012

"I didn't play tennis or have a class with Bud but he was always my favorite coach .He made a point to know and chat with the athletes from other sports. He loved Pali and he will be missed. Bud and his wife were also a very involved member of the Topanga community. Where my wife and I have lived for  years. THANK YOU--BUD"

This tribute was added by Marie O'Brien on 31st July 2012

"My friend... I will miss you. You were my husbands buddy, but ended up being a great friend to me too. I tried to teach you to cook and we cried together when we felt we had to. Joanie and the whole gang of good guys are up there so enjoy, my friend. I'll see you again some day, but in the meantime will miss your calls and funny humor. Thank you so much for being my friend,"

This tribute was added by Howard Sands on 31st July 2012

"I and so many others were blessed to have Bud in our lives.  Since graduating in 1979 I have revisited in my mind many conversations I had with Bud and truly cherish.  Bud was such a caring and gentle soul.  Rest in peace, dear Coach and mentor."

This tribute was added by Linda Ellrod on 31st July 2012

"A UNIQUE MAN..he was...Mr. Ware. He was such a sweet soul and a very special person.  I was lucky enough to have kept in touch with him all these years via Christmas cards. He came to visit me when I had my daughter and brought over her first pair of tennis shoes. He even came to see me play tennis at Palisades Park (of course on his motorcycle) a few years ago. I will truly miss him!"

This tribute was added by Claudia Stewart Navarro on 31st July 2012

"Mr. Ware was my Tennis teacher @ Pali in 1976.  My son is a Junior @ Pali now, and I've remembered Mr. Ware fondly.  I'm sorry to hear of his passing.  I really enjoyed reading about his life.  Sounds as though it was a very good one.  I appreciate how kind he was to me.  Thank you."

This tribute was added by Robin Warner on 31st July 2012

"Bud was the best...just an angel!  Amazing Man...Amazing Coach...and a wonderful soul....he will be missed!"

This tribute was added by Lynn Dickhoff on 31st July 2012

"I treasure my encounters with Bud at various events around Topanga. He always had a wonderful smile and something interesting to say. He led an amazing life, which his family so beautifully shared with us."

This tribute was added by Michael Harrington on 31st July 2012

"So glad I got to see you with other past team members at the reunion this summer.  Thanks to Bob and others for organizing.  Thanks for sticking up for me back in 74 Bud."

This tribute was added by Jacqueline Dubbins on 31st July 2012

"Bud, You watched me grow from the time I was a little girl. You were a great coach on the court- teaching me the inner game of tennis and always daring to "Reach High." You've been such a loving man and it meant everything to me seeing you in the audience on my high-school graduation day. Thank you for all your love and kindness. I will miss you!"

This tribute was added by Nick Rugen on 31st July 2012

"Bud and I were members of the De Molay Fraternity in High School.  I remember that he was such a sharp guy who was a great help to me when it came to memorizing all that ritual.  Everyone always liked Bud, he will be missed!"

This tribute was added by margaret dubbins on 31st July 2012

"27 years ago, under the trees on your front porch, you and Joan toasted Bob's and my engagement with champagne and loving support.  From that moment on, you have been our dear friend, always generous in sharing wisdom (on and off the court), laughter and love.We will carry you in our hearts and be forever grateful for all you have been to Bob, Jacqueline, Andrew and Me. Love Always."

This tribute was added by Robert Dubbins on 31st July 2012

"The Palisades High School and Tennis community has lost a great Man.
Coach Ware was a born teacher.  Whether it was Math class or on the court, basketball ,golf swinging, ski turns or later in life with my two kids learning their strokes in Topanga, Bud was the consumate instructor. Patient and creative with "films" to  prove it.He will be missed."

This tribute was added by Wendy Bull on 31st July 2012

"My favorite story is my mom telling me that Bud Ware gave my brother Danny Bearer PE credit  for surfing each morning, what a guy!"

This tribute was added by Chris Carlson on 31st July 2012

"Bud was my basketball coach during my first year at Pali in '67.  We all had some memorable experiences with Bud and Jerry that we will always remember.  My last visit with Bud took place where I now live in Camarillo.  I shared pictures of my life and showed and left him Pali reunion books that he so enjoyed.  I will always remember his calm and gentle spirit.  Love to all!  Chris Carlson"

This tribute was added by David Stowe on 31st July 2012

"Topanga Canyon
Almost too good to be real
Sort of like you, Bud"

This tribute was added by Gabrielle Lamirand on 31st July 2012

"Dear Bud I will miss your smile at our Canyon Sage meetings and events.  RIP.  xxx/ooo
as always, gsl"

This tribute was added by Bob Pierce on 31st July 2012

"Bud stayed in our hearts all these years because he CARED so much about our hearts. I will remain eternally grateful to him ... for his love and encouragement -- and his discipline (I needed it!). I'm so glad we had a recent reunion for one final touching-of-the-bases. Bon Voyage, Coach! You'll be missed ..."

This tribute was added by Marc Loopesko on 31st July 2012

"Coach Ware lead our Pali Hi tennis team (which I was a member of from '66-'69) to 3 straight L.A. City Championships.  "Bud" had the nack for getting the best out of us athletes.  Bud remained a good friend that I kept in touch with over the next 40+ years.  I and all my teammates will miss his wit & wisdom terribly.  Bud, we will finish our tennis match soon."

This tribute was added by Charles Weber on 31st July 2012

"I was privileged to  work with Coach Ware both as a coach and PE teacher in the early 1970's.   He encouraged talent when he saw it, and gave you the confidence if you were struggling.  But above all, he was a man of honor, nobility and he truly cared.  A no-nonsense kind of guy that will be missed by all of us."

This tribute was added by Thomas Inui on 31st July 2012

You wiry wizard, self-invented genius, believer in the amazing upside potential of every next generation, you’ve danced off stage left.  I admired your ideas, your moral core, your curiosity, your family, your aspirations.  You were so like your kumquats - a beautiful work of nature that when bitten are surprising, intriguing, sharp on the palate and sweet."

This tribute was added by Lorraine Reaume on 31st July 2012

"I loved Bub Ware. Period.
Lorraine Daniel '72"

This tribute was added by Gayla Stowe on 31st July 2012

"Bud: I love thinking about our visit this spring and how you tried and stay out of it when 15 year old John and 19 year old Sam were whacking away at the tennis ball on your court (OK just a bit of coaching) and how you let me cook with you in that unique kitchen space and how you always made time for genuine conversations along with whatever we were doing.  Thanks. I miss you."

This tribute was added by Monica Narveson on 31st July 2012

"Parties...bbqs..tennis..tree cutting...laughs..bad jokes..a real pal...always there loved jazz sent him cassettes...some he played a million times...LOVED em both...A RARE couple...Dick.Monica NARVESON..."

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