I remember talking with Carlos, weeks before he died. We had talked about death, in the past few months. We would joke about death, as in, "are you still here"? Then, we would laugh, and talk about what I had been doing. He always asked me, where I was and what was I doing. But, he seemed so guarded, about Norma and me visiting. He would put me on Hold, and check with Debbie. The answer was always, it's not a good time. But, he always asked me to call him, when I returned to Carrollton. But, the last time that I spoke with Carlos, I said, "I don't guess that I will see you again". He had no reply. But, I was talking about the covid-19. And, how people did not want visitors. And, the covid-19 was never going away. He thanked me for calling. We said bye, and I called Carlos, when I returned to Carrollton. I got his voice message. Debbie called me back, and left a message, that she and Carlos had covid, and he was in the hospital. She sounded very hoarse, to the point that it was hard to understand her. I will never know, if he or Debbie already had covid.