He was always there day or night bit of a moaner lol but that was dad we all miss him so much and wish he was still here dad has two children me and Howard two grandchildren vic and steph and three great gran kids kenzie Layla Lenny he does have other grandchildren to but this is my family Howard was killed in 1999 god bless him don't no how dad coped with that but he did but never got over it bless him xxx he was a strong man shame his life came to a end maybe sooner than he should of done xx we all love and miss you so much and you are always in or thoughts Jayne Vicki steph xxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxxx